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The Iliad / The Odyssey Paperback – Deckle Edge, November 1, 1999
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- Print length1264 pages
- LanguageEnglish
- PublisherPenguin Classics
- Publication dateNovember 1, 1999
- Reading age18 years and up
- Dimensions8.7 x 5.9 x 3.5 inches
- ISBN-100147712556
- ISBN-13978-0147712554
- Lexile measure1290L
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- Publisher : Penguin Classics; Edition Unstated (November 1, 1999)
- Language : English
- Paperback : 1264 pages
- ISBN-10 : 0147712556
- ISBN-13 : 978-0147712554
- Reading age : 18 years and up
- Lexile measure : 1290L
- Item Weight : 6.46 pounds
- Dimensions : 8.7 x 5.9 x 3.5 inches
- Best Sellers Rank: #85,027 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)
- #24 in Ancient & Classical Literary Criticism (Books)
- #75 in Ancient & Classical Poetry
- #98 in Epic Poetry (Books)
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Homer was probably born around 725BC on the Coast of Asia Minor, now the coast of Turkey, but then really a part of Greece. Homer was the first Greek writer whose work survives.
He was one of a long line of bards, or poets, who worked in the oral tradition. Homer and other bards of the time could recite, or chant, long epic poems. Both works attributed to Homer - The Iliad and The Odyssey - are over ten thousand lines long in the original. Homer must have had an amazing memory but was helped by the formulaic poetry style of the time.
In The Iliad Homer sang of death and glory, of a few days in the struggle between the Greeks and the Trojans. Mortal men played out their fate under the gaze of the gods. The Odyssey is the original collection of tall traveller's tales. Odysseus, on his way home from the Trojan War, encounters all kinds of marvels from one-eyed giants to witches and beautiful temptresses. His adventures are many and memorable before he gets back to Ithaca and his faithful wife Penelope.
We can never be certain that both these stories belonged to Homer. In fact 'Homer' may not be a real name but a kind of nickname meaning perhaps 'the hostage' or 'the blind one'. Whatever the truth of their origin, the two stories, developed around three thousand years ago, may well still be read in three thousand years' time.
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So the quality of these classics is very apparent in the appearance, binding and paper - hence the cost for this boxed set is 100% worth it! You won't be disappointed by the visual fact of the set, nor reading the translation of these classic books.
However, it is still a powerful poem. The story is not what you might expect. There is no Trojan horse, no golden apples. It starts in the ninth year of the siege of Troy as Achilles, enraged by the actions of Agammemnon, breaks from the Argives and sulks in his tent. This sets in motion a chain of events that will result in a clash between himself and the great Trojan hero Hector. All of this unfolds next to a second tale - the fighting amongst the Olympian gods as they determine the destiny of Troy and the heroes from both armies fighting for it.
The Iliad unfolds novelistically. We start with the rage of Achilles in the plains of Troy. Gradually, slowly, the background is revealed - the reason for the Argive invasion of Troy, the reason for the rage of Achilles. It is only very late in the book that the reasons for Hera's hatred of Troy and the tight bond between Patroclus and Achilles is explained.
Although there are many characters in the book, Achilles is the most powerful. Passionate, temperamental, arrogant, brutal and courageous. In many ways, he comes across as the villian. He is opposed by Hector -- also arrogant and brutal, but a family man. Hector is both admired and loved by the Trojans. Achilles is admired by the Greeks, but not loved. The characters of Patroclus, Odysseus and Agamemnon are also well-defined.
The Odyssey is a completely different sort of work. Whereas the Iliad is grand in scope and tells many overlapping stories, the Odyssey is tightly focused on the story of Odysseus's return to his beloved Ithaca. The Iliad is about war and glory, the Odyssey about home and family. One is clearly the work on an older Homer, assuming they come from the same author at all. The Odyssey is more descriptive, less crude in its imagery and the narrative line is cleaner, mostly because of the narrowed subject matter. One wonder if Homer intended it as part of a series of poems about the Greeks returning from troy.
The Odyssey was again not what I expected. It start with Odysseus's son, Telemachus, watching Penelope's suitors devour the fruits of his father's kingdom. Telemechus leaves on a voyage to find word of his father. This segues into Odysseus's return from a seven-year stay with Calypso. He is shipwrecked on Phaeacia, where, after being received by the King of Phaeacia, he unfolds the tale of the journey that landed him on Calypso's isle. The last half of the book deals with eventual return to Ithaca and his dealing with Penelope's suitors.
Homer's style is still songlike and lyrical. His description of the journey to the underworld is especially vivid. And Odysseus is expanded into a complex character - cunning, brave, suspicious - and of course the tragic flaw that creates the Odyssey - proud.
Fagles translation is probably the most unique you will run across. It translates the poems into vivid, song-like language that probably best reflects what the poems sounded like when Homer sang them. I find some fault with his occasionaly use of modern idiom (the overuse of phrases like "cut -and-run", etc.). But it is an easier and more enjoyable read than the more classic translations that favor more stilted prose.
Also, read the introductions. Although they are long, they are fascinating, especially in the discussion over the debate on the origins of the Iliad and the Odyssey. It will also help you appreciate some of the phrases used repeatedly in the poems ("swift-footed Achilles", "long-haired Argives", etc.").
Reviewed in the United States on August 21, 2017
And at a VERY nice price.
A common problem with sets like these is that the type is often
crammed so close together, and so light, it can be extremely hard to read.
That's NOT the case here.
Very easy on the eyes, well spaced and printed on surprisingly thick, rag edge stock.
The binding (so important in a paperback) is absolutely first-rate.
The covers are way beyond what you'd expect at the price.
And boxed is always nice.
Quality. Quality. Quality.
And highly recommended.
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2. The box that contains both books is too small. As a result of this, taking a book out of it is pretty hard and you need to be very careful because you might easily break the box.
Reviewed in Spain on May 8, 2020
2. The box that contains both books is too small. As a result of this, taking a book out of it is pretty hard and you need to be very careful because you might easily break the box.
What I will say about these editions is that they look fantastic. Whether sitting on a shelf or a desk, they are just lovely to look at. I'm aware that you shouldn't judge a book by its cover but they they look this good it's hard not to notice.
Robert Fagles does a great job translating both books in a manner which captures the spirit and inherent Greek-ness of the stories but makes them easy enough to understand for the modern reader. There is no middle English or half Greek or what some might consider nonsense language, the translation is very straightforward, easy to follow, and easy to understand. It takes a lot of work, dedication, and time to create what Fagles has accomplished here and I salute him for it.
If you're read these stories already in another translation I'd urge you to read Fagles as well, he breathes a different sort of life into the stories. If you've got old battered copies and are looking for new ones these shouldn't fail you ad they look lovely on a shelf together (With the Aeneid too, also by Fagles). If you've never read the Iliad or the Odyssey this set contains both at a modest price point and in the easiest to understand English without robbing the stories of their substance. Excellent work on Fagles behalf, I'll be reading these for many more years to come and hopefully you will be too!
I enjoyed this prose version immensely. It was, to me, more accessible as an introduction to Greek mythology as compared to Robert Fagle's verse translation.
It is worth noting is that this Kindle version uses Latin, rather than Greek, names. This is true for both books. It took me by surprise, especially as my physical copy of Butler's "Iliad" used the Greek naming convention (and that does appear to have been the only difference between them.) This could be considered a negative; although, I suppose it is a subjective point. My own preference is that Greek epics stick to Greek nomenclature, and so I have docked it a star.
That said, I am continuing to read this with great satisfaction and joy, and would encourage anybody that is on the fence to consider this book.