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The Coming of the Greeks Reissue Edition
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When did the Indo-Europeans enter the lands that they occupied during historical times? And, more specifically, when did the Greeks come to Greece? Robert Drews brings together the evidence--historical, linguistic, and archaeological--to tackle these important questions.
- ISBN-100691029512
- ISBN-13978-0691029511
- EditionReissue
- PublisherPrinceton University Press
- Publication dateOctober 17, 1994
- LanguageEnglish
- Dimensions5.25 x 0.64 x 8.5 inches
- Print length276 pages
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"The fact that [a] pattern of localized Near Eastern takeovers coincides with the inception of chariot warfare, coupled with his carefully documented hypothesis that Proto-Indo-European-speaking (PIE) peoples in Armenia were responsible for the development and spread of chariot warfare, serves as the backdrop to Drews's innovative scenario for the arrival of the Greeks.... Such complete Near Eastern analogies involving archaeology, mythology, and linguistics, for example, have been rarely applied to support theories of PIE dispersal.... His research serves the critical function of provoking new views of a long-standing problem."---Susan N. Skomal, American Journal of Archaeology
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"An archaeological and linguistic whodunnit of the most fascinating sort, courageously tackling a much-argued problem from several disciplines at once.... No one dealing with the dispersal of the Indo-Europeans can ignore this book."--Elizabeth Wayland Barber, Occidental College
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- Publisher : Princeton University Press; Reissue edition (October 17, 1994)
- Language : English
- Paperback : 276 pages
- ISBN-10 : 0691029512
- ISBN-13 : 978-0691029511
- Item Weight : 12 ounces
- Dimensions : 5.25 x 0.64 x 8.5 inches
- Best Sellers Rank: #1,269,938 in Books (See Top 100 in Books)
- #241 in Prehistory
- #1,443 in Ancient Greek History (Books)
- #2,266 in Ancient Roman History (Books)
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- Reviewed in the United States on August 30, 2022The more we uncover genetic research and testing or DNA the more the theories of Indo European expansion make sense. This book has a surprising amount of accurate things to say only in relation to material culture as genetic testing was not available when this was written. If you are interested in the bronze age, chariots, and Indo Europeans this is a great read.
- Reviewed in the United States on April 30, 2016changed my life. brilliant analysis off evidence explains the origin of Mycenaean Greece and indeed, the Indo-European expansion in a complete and logical fashion.
- Reviewed in the United States on December 29, 2015Very pleased. Thank you.
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- Reviewed in the United States on October 18, 2007I majored in Ancient History at university a long time ago and this would be the sort of essay required by the professors who always emphasized primary research and pretty much disallowed all else. Most of the material is drawn from existing research in linguistics, archaeology, osteology, and other disciplines taken together to form a likely picture of how the 'PIE-speakers' (the peoples speaking 'proto-Indo-European') came to the Aegean, when, under what circumstances, and why.
The material is very scholarly but surprisingly not dry. It has about as much information as anyone (except a specialist!) would want on dialects and sub-dialects and when and how they evolved and where, war chariots, light spoked vs. cart wheels, spear-chucking vs. archers in the chariots, regular bows vs. composite bows, and whether the 'Greeks' came as violent conquerors or 'infiltrators' or who simply moved in and 'took over' existing ruling regimes.
The books synthesizes existing research as of about twenty years ago, I just wonder what new findings in these various contributory fields has emerged since then. If anyone can recommend updated reading material, please email me.
Altogether a very good book, very readable, and enlightening in a number of respects - not least of which is to demonstrate how the scholars themselves argue various points and theses - some exotic or 'eccentric' - constructively critiqueing each other, and ultimately come to something resembling agreement (or not).
My only objection is that the author cites a fair amount of material in his footnotes from German, French, and other language sources, albeit without translation into English. I can read German fairly well so I managed that, but the rest was lost on me.
- Reviewed in the United States on September 2, 2023Excellent study. Highly recommend.
- Reviewed in the United States on July 14, 2001This is a fascinating look at the development of chariot warfare and an examination of early migrations across Anatolia. These accomplishments are even more impressive when you explore Eastern Turkey and see the formidable geographic challenges these people faced. Several recent proposals (for both the Greeks, and the Israelites) is that mythical ancestral migrations were actually later retellings of the making of nations from people who were already living in those areas.
- Reviewed in the United States on March 30, 2015It is the second book on the origins of the Indo-Europeans I read, recently. They seem to have originated about 5,000 BC, axccordinbg to the first one somewhere in the Russian steppes, above the Caspian Sea and the Black Sea, according to Drews in Armenia, which is not far away. Armenia is where they say Noah's arc landed after the Deluge.....Both books are tantalizing, t he problem is tht the anount of information is scarce, and huge areas are missing. They both agree that the elite Indo-Europeans were the rulers of the Hittite kingdom, but Drews think that the rest of the people (most of them) talked another language. And the Greeks came to Greece only in 1600 BC, when they began Mycenes etc. Both books are fascinating, and they both explain why Indo-European is no longer prohibited (it was misused by Hitler and his minions), it's like saying Semites or Africans or whatever. Drews thinks that they were riding before they invented their chariots, but I find it hard to believe it. It is a good book, but should be read with the one by Antony, one also gets this way the uncertainties of their beliefs.
- Reviewed in the United States on March 25, 2017His theory is that the Greeks first arrived on the scene in the late seventeenth to early sixteenth century. He concludes that they were a small band of exploitative invaders. However, recent genetic tests based on mtDNA disprove his theory by showing that the Minoans were Europeans who arrived here some time in Neolithic times (about 9,000 years ago). Google search it and read the article about the Journal findings yourself. As a side note, the author is clearly not a disinterested scholar (which in itself is not a problem but it is unpalatable due to the hypocritical way he persistently tries to devalue other viewpoints by advancing the position that they are racist). Don't buy the book. Purchase other detailed books on the history of the Mycenae and Minoan civilizations and supplement with recent genetic studies. I am not giving the book 1 star because of his conclusion. I am giving his book 1 star (I had to give at least 1 star) because his theory is clearly incorrect and I am repulsed by the intelligentsia's dogmatic rhetoric that western society is intrinsically racist.
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- William NevilleReviewed in the United Kingdom on January 2, 2019
5.0 out of 5 stars Great summary; loved it
And I learned a lot a bout the Hittites and the Indo-Europeans too
- Colin BarnardReviewed in the United Kingdom on April 6, 2015
4.0 out of 5 stars Excellent but is it right?
Excellent read. Seemingly well argued. But cannot judge how highly it's rated by other experts e g what would Colin Renfrew say?is there yet a consensus on indo Europeans coming into Europe?